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This discussion is not based on anything with the Water Resources Division, which is the best government organization that he has ever witnessed. And is at the heart of what the USGS is. Demonstrable relevance is evident from the underwriting of the projects. WRD does things in a common way.
Steve Blanchard will be the new ACH/I which is a tribute to the important work that we perform in the WRD. Bob Hirsch has asked Steve Hammond and Katherine Lins to assist in the OI leadership. Katherine will oversee the OI geospatial functions and Steve Hammond will oversee the IT functions.
AIS, OIH, two Reimbursable Program personnel, Technical Support including HIF, OFA, and non-standard agreements are joining the Office of Information from the ACH/Operations.
This team will be an excellent triumvirate to lead.
GIO: Karen Siderelis was offered the job last Friday. And will accept the position early this week, starting with a remote office in North Carolina and come to Reston full time in a few months. Her expectation is to comment on the IT/IM functions and will help decide who would be selected to do these functions.
Bureauwide IT/IM reorganization will be much slower because of the slowness of the Admin reorganization. The plea from Lew Wade to slow down the IT/IM reorg was accepted. The first wave will be at Christmas or after Christman. The second wave to include reports functions will be after that.Distributed WRD employees to include a commitment will be kept together and committed to the WRD functions. This will be a fight to ensure that this happens. The water will be choppy and the road will be difficult.
Who will be taking Lew's place on the Bureau reorg IT/IM committee? Lew's first recommendation is Steve Blanchard and the second is Katherine Lins.
Any advice on how to communicate with Karen Siderelis? Lew's advice is to continue to reiterate to Karen that WRD has a lot to offer the USGS in the IT arena. Lew has offered to spend another day with Karen Siderelis. Karen needs to hear a consistent story about WRD and Karen should know who to come to talk to when the going gets rough.
Any advice to get other Divisions to join CPAC in IT/IM functions? Other divisions seem to be preoccupied right now with their own reorganizational issues.
OI Organization Chart? Steve Hammond brought an organization chart to this meeting and shared the chart with the CPAC. This will not be posted in the minutes of this meeting. This chart includes units are absorbed from Cathy Hill's shop.
Future of CPAC a year down the road? What effect does the USGS reorganization have on CPAC? We will see. There has been general Bureau paranoia about Division committees - this seems to be relaxing a bit in the last few weeks. The real question is how to maintain focus (field service) when the Bureau functions and charters are broadening. This is the challenge.
Finally, Lew Wade gives his special thanks to Carl Goodwin for his focus and subtle approach and Bill Carswell for his strategic CPAC work. And special thanks to Scott McEwen for his enthusiasm. And also a special thanks to Charlie Merk for stepping forward in his service to CPAC.
Extra clarifications to Leonora's powerpoint slides:
Greg noted that he and Nelson were overruled at the last CPAC meeting regarding the decision to buy these units for the Districts. Leonora reused the memory. Field Offices are the other offices on the other islands in the State of Hawaii. Remote Field Offices are ones in Micronesia. Two LAN jumps for getting Email is slooooooooooow. Replication on the desktops in the District helps a little. Before the T1, the network could not support email, attachments, exporting large GIS coverages, etc. T1 connects District Office and Maui. T1 connects Maui Center and the Big Island where the Lotus Notes Server resides.
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Mark Nilles will check on the status of why SLEDS cannot be installed successfully in the
Hawaii District.
2.
Mark Nilles will report back to Bill Carswell on what he can find out about the overall
SLEDS status and plans from the Office of Surface Water. Bill will bring the issue forward to
the Senior Staff.
3.
Greg Allord and Bob Pierce will address the status and plans for Hydrologic Unit Code
for Hawaii. Discuss resolution needed with NRCS.
4.
Steve Hammond & Tom Wood will discuss the status and plans for connectivity to the
Outer Islands.
Therefore, we can transition to BASIS and then shut off AIS
Hirsch wants unit values online. CPAC is working on an issue that involves using CD-ROM technology to archive unit values. Ernie Dreyer is working on a guideline for archiving all unit values and supplementary data that is used to work up the record. Another group in the discipline offices are working on archiving data and updating OFR 02-57.
5.
Alan and Greg will get together with the District employee to find out what the issue is,
and from this meeting, Alan and Greg will put the graphics question on the next agenda.
The issue is: What has been done? What hasn't been done? When?
Greg's views that new platforms do not have to be MACs. First machines to get off MACs is GIS work. No longer viewed as the strongest platforms for publishing. The cost of switching off is high: training costs are high, purchasing software.
But there is a Reports Stewardship team. About forty reports undergo a quality review every year. Quality is consistent across the Division. This issue will be brought to the new GIO as a Bureau publishing issue.
The town meeting with the Hawaii District was the best one with respect to attendance and with a lot of questions and answers, which follows below:
At the Computer Policy Advisory Committee (CPAC) meeting last week, the Hawaii district pointed out that the Dell GX150's Celeron processors are far less powerful than Pentium cousins. While they did not wish to look the proverbial "gift horse in the mouth," the SA and District Chief did feel that the GX150 machines they received were not suitable for the modeling activities for which they were intended, and that the GX150s would be given to less demanding staff.
It was noted that Celerons are not what we should be buying, since WRD typically need to invest into high-end machines for the most demanding needs, shuffle around older machines from high-end staff to intermediate staff, and dump the oldest, slowest equipment. That's an technology refreshment strategy that many districts use.
This would not be forced on the districts. A centralized purchase with the use by Districts would be desirable but not mandatory. Cost recovery is an issue if the District is not using the product (or any product.) Scott McEwen opted for consistency in each District to support the Personal Computers. This product works with everything, WIN2000, WinNT, 95, 98, Linux but works better in a standard hardware configuration. Licensing is holding up some Districts from buying WIN2000. Nelson indicated that it would cost tens of thousands of dollars to upgrade to WIN2000.
Nelson Williams wants to go on the record to say that, with respect to this product issue, he thinks it is great that NT TAC is being proactive rather than reactive. CPAC supports the NT TAC recommendation to support this product. The DIS Program Office will support this product. Tom Wood and the DIS Program office will ask the Districts by email to let him know if they are interested in they would like to participate in a mass buy. The recommendation from NT TAC is accepted.
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Tom Wood will send out to the Districts information on this product's overview and will solicit
any interest from anyone who wishes to be part of a centralized purchase.
NT TAC should consider the following for inclusion on their web pages, linked in their left-hand margin frame under "Development -> Programming Languages..."
Lahey Fortran LF 95 PRO v5.6 is the recommended Fortran compiler for the Windows NT/2000 operating system. This development package costs $795 via open market.
For Fortran applications that use the Graphical Kernel System (GKS) standard for graphics, the Interacter v4.30 multi-platform user interface and graphics library may be useful. The Hydrologic Analysis Software Support (HASS) Program can provide a library of routines that will convert many GKS calls to Interacter graphics calls. If you have an application that uses GKS, contact HASS to see if this library can be used with your application. This package costs an additional $675 via open market.
Currently, there is no blanket purchase agreement for Lahey Fortran. LF95 PRO can be purchased directly from Lahey by calling (800) 548-4778.
General information on Lahey Fortran is available at their website. http://www.lahey.com/
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Steve Hammond will see to it that the Office of Information (OI) would buy a Fortran Lahey
compiler for Dan Winkless, since Dan supports the Fortran help function.
Scott wants "guidelines" which can be view as cookbook instructions for the Site Administrators who will be asked to archive electronic NWIS unit value and other project data. Just add the details to Loren's outline. This would be about 15 documents.
"What is original data records?" Is the important but difficult-to-answer question.
A discussion ensued and CPAC agreed that archival instructions were necessary.
8.
Mark Nilles to get a timeline for the discipline office archival group's deliverable.
9.
Mark Nilles (discipline offices), Sandy Williamson (Biology/NAWQA) and the Scott McFarlane (NRP).
will collect review comments from the discipline offices; NAWQA personnel needs to know what
1) NAWQA needs to archive and 2) what is taken care of.
Bill Carswell recommends that Loren's document stand "as it is" for a template "work-in-progress" under development and CPAC can call the document an "Interim" recommendation until the discipline office come through with the revision of OFR 92-56. Also, Bill Carswell recommends that a database administrator training course for archiving electronic data be held.
10.
Loren Kloft and the "next step" action item will be to ensure that the Section Chiefs,
Site Administrators, Regional Hydro Technicians Committees and Ernie Dreyer review the comments and
suggest more details than Loren's CPAC archival document. Loren will compile the comments, but will hold
off on updating the necessary pages that would complete the CPAC archival document.
The document produced by Loren Kloft is at URL: http://ky.water.usgs.gov/cpac_eda.htm
11.
Mark Nilles to update the document and hand the document over to NWIS, who will own this document.
12.
Alan Lumb will send out an email to all Senior managers distributions A,B,C, D, DC, CD, ETC. to
announce the availability of this document.
The question is what would the cost be for hardware and software for this kind of infrastructure? Not all Districts need a server. Maybe this should be served like NATWeb is served or as Regional Servers.
Is the integration of data layers part of the CPAC purview?
Do we wait for Gateway? Or Atlas? Or do we something simpler first?
Does this overlap Gateway to the Earth? -- YES, but the deliverable date is unknown.
Update to GILS is called Earth Explorer and the National Atlas: these two programs are involved also.
13.
Greg Allord, Sandy Williamson and Carl Goodwin frame the issue and see where these programs
stand; Gateway, Atlas, and EROS Data Center. Maybe, if there is something interesting on the near horizon,
then CPAC can invite Ken Lanfear to come to the next CPAC meeting to talk about Gateway to the Earth.
A Gateway briefing document ahead of time would be important two weeks prior to the meeting so educated questions could be asked. Also, invite Atlas, and EROS Data Center. Also, Enviromapper for NWIS.
CPAC needs to find out if this technology is important to a District.
CPAC will go to the next WRD Senior Staff Meeting, which is a NMD joint meeting, with an articulation of
what capability WRD would like to have so that EDC could deliver to WRD for a WIN-WIN solution.
Sandy
Williamson and Mike Slifer will be delivering the CPAC message at the WRD Senior Staff Meeting during the
Third Week in January. Venture capital could be a source of funds.
Steve Hammond will get this on the
WRD Senior Staff meeting agenda.
Maybe a GEOSPATIAL interface to NWISWeb would be the minimum.

The bottom line is that Alan Lumb and Steve Hammond will call Lew Wade with feedback from today's CPAC discussion. The immediate issue revolves around the next major NWIS release; release 4_1; and whether this release should be split into two releases; one for ADAPS and one for QW/GWSI subsystems. Lew Wade will meet with Bob Hirsch on November 2 to discuss the current status and plans of NWIS. Steve is not certain that an NWIS split release may not be the best approach. ADAPS is viewed as holding up ( about 57 % of the ADAPS 4_1 functions are ready) the release of the QW and the GWSI functions. The remaining 43% of the ADAPS work is not as difficult as the first 57%.
Long term NWIS staffing issues continue to exist. More testers are needed for ADAPS to relieve Jeff Christman who can be used more for coding.
Colleen Babcock indicates to Alan Lumb that Mark Farmer, ADAPS programmer, is going to work on the project about 90% - up from 50%.
QW Phoenix talked about this for several days in their last. Phoenix recommended not to split the release after hearing Colleen Babcock's discussion of the current status and options. QW Phoenix doesn't think that 4_1 is getting all of the QW functionality that it needs; bits and pieces are being delivered. The NWIS QW Phoenix group thinks that Spring 2002 rather than Spring 2001 would be the earliest that a NWIS 4_1 release schedule date that NWIS 4_1. If this is the case, one recommendation from Phoenix is that QW 5_1 functions would be added if the full NWIS 4_1 release is delayed until Spring 2001.
NWIS indicates that there should be no release during working up the annual data report. Installation generally are scheduled over a three month window. Alan indicated that a patch has been discussed to add additional functions between releases 4 and 5.
NAWQA has to aggregate their data and there are issues here with respect to scheduling the new version's installation.
CPAC recognized that an NWIS split release is out of the picture.
Scott McEwen recommends that NWIS and WRD make a Spring 2001 release happen and to dedicate programming and testing resources necessary to make this happen.
Greg Shank indicates that a late release is much preferred to a buggy release by the hydrologic technicians.
Mark Nilles indicates that the NWIS factory is broken. The incremental approach is no longer working.
Database modernization and revolution is needed.
Gary McMahon agrees that the NWIS bug-free approach is paramount.
14.
Tom Wood will talk to Computer Associates (CA) regarding the options to re-license DISPLA and
let CPAC know the results by email.
15.
Tom Wood will report the test results back to CPAC. Shawn Noble and Sun TAC will test NWIS and
DISPLA on Sun Solaris 8 with the new Fortran compiler.
NatWeb has been designed based on the 1999 CPAC action item to make real-time data on the WWW. NWISWeb is a integral part and subsystem of NATWeb. Susan, Colleen and Jimmy Bisese have been members of NATWeb. Since that time, these members have received new assignments and that a meeting should be held to determine the next steps in the NatWeb. Paradigm shifts (mysql, webveg, etc.) have occurred during the NWISWeb development. (The processes needing analyzing: bringing in the NWIS data, loading the NWIS data and serving the data to the customers. ) Performance, scalability and traffic analysis are under investigation. A repeatable load test is needed to determine capacity of the NatWeb. This test should be performed prior to make a lot of hardware and software changes.
To announce the release of NWISWeb to the public, WRD needs to know the testing results.
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CPAC will encourage a few good folks to assist NatWeb. What can CPAC do for NatWeb? When Lorna
Schmid sends out an email to solicit help,
NWIS Strategy presented by Alan Lumb.
Bill Carlswell asked about assessment of the Canadian NWIS-like systems. Bill indicated that several District Chiefs from the Canadian border states reported that the system is impressive.
Question from Mark Nilles about how the prioritization of user requirements. All user requirements are funneled through the NWIS User Groups for prioritization regardless of the sources of the requirements.
Question from Sandy Williamson on RIT about how priorities are sorted out among the various NWIS users groups.This model works as long as there are sufficient resources, but this team did not work.
Questions about Strategic Issues Team and the Architectural Issues Team. Scott McEwen seems to think these teams have fizzled.
Bob Hirsch and the Senior Staff want an independent outside NWIS review. Bill Carlswell recommends that a Senior Staff member on the CPAC group. Mike Slifer has received the charge for overseeing the external NWIS review. Mike suggests that the CPAC subgroup review the "NWIS external review" statement of work and the deliverables before the review begins. The role of CPAC may be to help NWIS see that they stay on target with the NWIS releases. Mike Slifer wants the independent NWIS review to answer the question of whether the NWIS process is broken. The CPAC subgroup would help validate the contractor's outside view about NWIS processes and resources. The CPAC subgroup would advise Senior Staff with recommendations regarding NWIS processes. Next year, there should be some additional resources available for NWIS. Bob Hirsch and Senior Staff wants to carve out this funding from the Bureau.
Some discussion points on short term NWIS issues:
What does it take to get to NWIS 4_1 on the street? Does NWIS need more resources for this?
Some discussion points on long term NWIS issues:
The existing contractor needs to look at some NWIS processes with respect to improving the development of the NWIS 5_1.
Bring in a benchmark solution where a contractor who has some success and failure stories.
Bring in a second contractor who can be a check and balance on the first contractor.
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The NWIS External Review team would meet with Bob Hirsch, present a draft charge, and Bob
Hirsch will respond to the scope of the task. The CPAC NWIS external review committee members are:
Mike Slifer, Chair; Steve Hammond; Scott McEwen; Sandy Williamson; Nelson Williams, Steve Brady and a
discipline office representative.
DIS Support Funding Summary FY2001, Tom Wood
DIS Program Office Futures, Tom Wood
In an event, the cooperator wants to call the station and get the stage values. Iowa, Maryland and other Districts are in need of the writing of programs to poll the data. The Districts wanted a version of the polling software ported to the Sun. This raised the red flag for Scott McEwen. Web support is needed for these types of stations. Is this a District problem/issue or a National problem/issue. The OSW survey quantified the numbers of stations that have telemetry stations that are other-than-GOES. Ask OSW if it is ready to recognize the need for support. Define the support. Georgia District purchased polling software that is a possible solution. Give such a District to package the system for other Districts and then hand this application over to NWIS.
18.
Scott McEwen is to draft a letter for Carl Goodwin/CPAC to send to OSW to reconsider the
"polling software for non-GOES sites" support issue.
19.
Scott McEwen to have the five or six Districts involved define what the actions would be to
support the "polling software for non-GOES sites" support issue.
(Priority list goes here, Charlie Merk will provide the final list and annotations.)
20.
Carl Goodwin and Charlie Merk put together a presentation for WRD Senior Staff covering the
goals for the last year and the goals for the next year (the 3 CPAC goals or a wrapper around the
three goals. These goals were voted on to be: FUTCOM; field computer software development issues
and FRAMEMAKER viability). All CPAC members are to provide their ideas about the list of accomplishments.
FUTCOM: comprehensive (6-12 months) Vs. Focused (3 months). Options follow:
21.
Carl Goodwin to send an email to all WRD employees with an overview of CPAC, its members,
the constituency groups, this calendar year goals, and the previous calendar year accomplishments.
Suggestions would be solicited from WRD employees. The CPAC URL would be advertised in this one page
email.
Bill Carswell suggested CPAC goals for FY2001 include:
22.
A CPAC subgroup is charged to revise and update the CPAC Charter with the Bureau
reorganization in mind. Bill Carswell, Steve Hammond and Carl Goodwin and Charlie Merk will
constitute this CPAC subgroup.
23.
A CPAC subgroup will revise FUTCOM. The FUTCOM report will be delivered with an
eye on leading the Bureau Direction in light of the reorganization. This FUTCOM will focus on
the WRD DIS and NWIS Architectural Issues Team issues. CPAC suggested breaking down this report
topics into groups. Database and telecom futures are to be included. Suggested steps for FUTCOM
follow. Frame the state of computing in the water discipline to set the stage. Frame the premises.
Review issues of the AIT and prioritize. The team members would be led by Scott McEwen and would
include Greg Allord, Nelson Williams, and a GIS representative. Scott McEwen will draft a charge
back to CPAC within the thirty days.
24.
CPACcharged a subgroup on Emerging Technology, along the lines of what Sandy
Williamson has performed. The team would include Sandy Williamson, Mike Slifer, Gary McMahon and
Charlie Merk to coordinate the emerging technology topics and CPAC presentations.
25.
Steve Hammond will investigate the use of investment or seed money dollars would be
needed using the ICOM model or some other construct. The goal is to have Senior Staff buy off on
the seed money concept. One suggestion is to have seed money for the hardware and/or software rather
than huge competition for a project and salaries. CPAC will continue to function with Steve Hammond being Lew Wade's replacement. CPAC has headed off catastrophic disasters by holding the CPAC meetings quarterly in District offices. See notes above for more information on this topic.
(insert Charlie Merk's PowerPoint presentation here)

26.
Carl Goodwin -- Three high priority DIS-related funding needs: security, NT TAC and the
increased fund for field support for third-part software. CPAC feels that it is very important to fund
these priorities. The Chair will send a memo to Steve Blanchard who will pass this onto the WRD Senior
Staff regarding the importance of these three critical funding needs. The Char will send a memo to Steve
Blanchard who will pass this onto the WRD Senior Staff regarding the importance of these three critical
funding needs.
The Chair will add another request for a critical need for CPAC seed money for emerging technology, about $20K request for seed money.
Mike Slifer volunteered. The process will be finalized at the next meeting when the vote will be held.
27.
Carl Goodwinand the Charter subgroup will review the CPAC charter with respect to rotations
terms and notify the Regional Hydrologist requesting the selection of replacement CPAC members.
28.
Nelson Williams and Loren Kloft will be the CPAC liaison with Lorna Schmid and develop a one-page
document describing WRD recommendations for web accessibility for the disabled. Two weeks before the
next meeting.
29.
Tom Wood to invite Bob Wakelee to the February CPAC meeting for a discussion on telecommunications
support for publishing activities. Improved bandwidth for the cooperators - possibly thru the Univerities
is being investigated by OPS and should be reported on during the agenda item.
30.
Greg Allord will provide a draft to communicate the publishing plans and activities. Including
the District Issues concerning software publishing packages, rationale, analysis, conclusions, "what's
on the horizon", etc. Greg will send an email as a "heads up and awareness" to CPAC and
WRD publishing employees, many of whom may not have attended the PIG Conference this last summer.
Feedback in the form of review comments will be soliticited.
Due date is November 16.
31.
Carl Goodwin will validate with the Ohio District Chief. Carl will find out who the District
contact should be for computer support and logistics; and then notify Charlie Merk who will
coordinate the logistics. The dates are January 30 to February 2.
32.
Carl Goodwin will check with the Regional Hydrologist for the following choice of dates:
May 8-10 and May 1-3. Some suggestions for locations include: Tennessee and Alabama.
33.
Bill Carswell will see that the WEB-MAP issue gets on the agenda for the WRD Senior Staff
meeting with NMD representatives in January 2001.
34.
Steve Hammond will investigate the charter of the SPIDER group and report back to CPAC
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Address questions or comments to Charles Merk, |