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CPAC Meeting Minutes

May 16-18, 2000
Minnesota District, St Paul

CPAC membership email abbreviation:   GS-W CPAC


| Attendees | | Agenda | | Expectations | | Action Items |
| Town Meeting | | Minutes:    Tues, 5/16/00 | | Wed, 5/17/00 | | Thurs, 5/18/00 |















Attendees:

Following is a list of the CPAC meeting attendees:

    Alan Lumb

    Chief, National Water Information System (NWIS), Reston, VA

    Tom Wood

    Acting Chief, Distributed Information System

    Mark Nilles

    Discipline Office, Denver, CO

    Michael Slifer

    District Chief, Lincoln, NE

    Carl Goodwin

    District Chief - CPAC Chair

    Bill Carswell

    Senior Staff Liaison, NR, Reston, VA
    (attending first day only)

    Lew Wade

    Senior Staff Liaison, OI, Reston, VA
    (attending 2 days only)

    Pat Vallance

    Administrative Officer, Tucson, AZ

    Barry Hill

    Data Chief, Honolulu, HI

    Gary Mahon

    Section Chief, Tallahassee, FL

    Greg Shank

    Data Base Management Systems, Lemoyne, PA

    Loren Kloft

    Site Administrator, Louisville, KY

    Nelson Williams

    World Wide Web Development, Raleigh, NC

    Steve Glodt

    National Water-Quality Laboratory, Denver, CO

    Scott McEwen

    Regional Computer Specialist, Denver, CO

The following did NOT attend the CPAC meeting, but sent a substitute:

    Leo House
    Substitute:  
    Scott McFarlane

    NRP Representative Denver, CO

    Sandy Williamson
    Substitute:   Dave Lorenz

    National Water Quality Assessment, Tacoma, WA

The following did NOT attend the CPAC meeting and did NOT send a substitute:

    Isabelle Halley

    Chief, Administrative Information System (AIS), Reston, VA

Introductions by Carl Goodwin. Intro messages on Bureau change by Lew Wade, Bill Carswell, and George Garklavs.

With respect to Bureau changes; keep doing your work.

Meeting Expectations and Concerns

  1. Need to HEAR from our district folks
  2. Need to report out on actions and closures
  3. Need input from cooperators
  4. Extend invitations to other divisions
  5. Concern about "consolidation" functions in HQ -- this has greatly increased the time it takes to do things. ADD TO AGENDA of this meeting.
  6. Need for service functions to SERVE not control
  7. Need to test in actual environment - not just in Reston, e.g. Travel Manager

Meeting Minutes

  Changes in agenda:

    New item added for

    Wednesday, May 17

    4:30 PM

    Role of USGS Operations Office

     

    Objective:   Discuss concerns about "consolidating" functions in HQ, which has greatly increased the time it takes to do work.

     

      Expected Outcome:  Documentation of concerns.

    Append to 8:45 AM

    Seed money for Projects (Goodwin)

     

      Expected Outcome:  Documentation of concerns.

     

    Year 2000 Funds for Lotus Implementation Desktops (Wood & Merk)
    Status and Plans:  Update

    Change following for

    Thursday, May 18

    8:45 AM

    Seed money for Projects (Goodwin)

     

      Expected Outcome:  Report Out on Status.

 Tuesday, May 16, 2000

  • Office of Information (Wade):
    • Personnel changes in the Office of Information include:
      • Gloria Stiltner has taken detail to Bureau OPS to lead the Lotus Implementation Team.
      • Tom Wood to act as DIS Program Office Chief.
      • Request denied by Bureau HR Committee to advertise DIS Program Office Chief.
      • Maryjon McAvery to backfill in for Tom Wood as ASU Chief.
      • Chuck O'Hara to act as SSU Chief for 120 days.
      • Request denied by Bureau HR Committee to advertise DIS SSU Chief.
      • Susan Trapanese moved to NWIS staff -- NWIS Web position.
      • In progress, advertise GIPO Chief for one-year term.

    • Largely speculations follow:
      • Bureau level group tasked with examining functions:
        • Recommendation to keep the following offices close to Water Discipline.
          • NWIS - Project Office in Discipline Office.
          • HASS Program Office
          • Water Information Coordination

        • The following are recommended to be under the Bureau Geological Information Office:
          • DIS Program
          • GIPO Program - generic tools
          • Reports Functions - strong water-discipline ties

        • The following is recommended to be under the Bureau Office of Operations:
          • AIS (Administrative Information System) Program

        • The following is recommended to be under Bureau of Office of Communications:
          • OI Outreach Personnel

    CPAC members have concern about some existing functions being centralized; such as the following:

    • Help Desk Support for Lotus Notes
    • Packaging and testing WRD DIS products
    • Other tools
    • There is concern/sentiment about "throwing out the baby with the bath water".
      Suggest value added functions rather than throwing out existing functions.
      Suggest Bureau solutions that would be good to keep what is working.

    • Bureau power base is shifting from the Division to the Regional Directors; who will report to Director and Bureau OPS Chief
    • Discussion of:
      • Region functions chain of command: Director -> Regional Directors and Executives.
      • These must hear the concerns of the CPAC.
      • Discipline functions chain-of-command.
      • There is value in the CPAC issues.
      • Share with the Regional Directors the information that is important to CPAC.

  • Membership:
    •   Action Item 1:  The designated CPAC members meet with the Regional Hydrologist office after the CPAC meeting to communicate issues that are important to CPAC (Lew Wade and Carl Goodwin will provide talking points at Thursday closing.)

      • Bill Carswell and Lew Wade will communicate to the USGS Associate Director for Water.
      • Bill Carswell and Carl Goodwin will communicate to the Eastern Regional Director and to Wanda Meeks.
      • Mike Slifer and Scott McEwen will communicate to Central Region Director and Jim Kircher.
      • Lew Wade, Barry Hill, and Pat Vallance will communicate to the Western Region Director and John Conomos.
      • The concern is about speaking for the needs of the water discipline and serving the tools to a large number of distributed infrastructure office.

        Action Item 2:  Cause Regional Computer Specialists to attend next CPAC meeting and then see what happens.

      • Bill Carswell will talk to Regional Hydrologists.

    • Computer Oriented Strategic Direction (Carswell):
      • Handout from Bill Carswell:  CPAC Goal 6
      • Computer-Oriented Strategic View
      • Suggested Process
        1. Look at CPAC Charter and overlay WRD Strategic Plan
        2. Evaluate resulting topics
          1. Is it important to WRD?
          2. In CPAC Charter?
          3. Not being worked on (or well).

      • Two Paths
        1. CPAC Planning
        2. Critique line organization

      • HANDOUT from Bill Carswell:  MATRIX:  Potential CPAC Issues in Support of Strategic Directions for the Water Resources Division 1998 - 2008
      • HANDOUT from Bill Carswell:  Recommended FY 2000 Priorities
        1. Continue to use emerging technologies to improve the delivery of products to high-priority users.
        2. Alternate work place might be appropriate in situations such as working with colleagues at a university or cooperator facility, analyzing data or writing a report at a library or at home, or working at a site away from the office during periods when injury or illness restrict an employee's ability to travel to the office.
        3. Develop tools necessary to manage watersheds effectively as the complex systems they truly are.
        4. Develop a new generation of computer models to simulate:
          • Watershed-scale responses to climate and land-use changes
          • Open channel surface-water flow
          • Interaction of ground-water and surface-water, including lakes, streams, and wetlands
          • Water chemistry and sediment transport

        5. Connect all of our core hydrologic models to graphical user interfaces and scientific visualization software.

        Bill Carswell describes the process for developing CPAC strategic goals.
        Bill suggested revisiting the strategic goals at the first FY 2001 CPAC meeting.

      • Setting specific goals is a good way to progress from a list of prioritized items --
        • -- Rather than starting from the Strategic Directions Document.

      • Collect Issues and at next CPAC meeting will prioritize the issues.
      • Be prepared in November CPAC meeting to set the goals.
      • Progress for the three recommend FY 2000 priorities are as follows:
        1. Sandy Williamson CYBER Seminar
        2. Not worked at this time except Bureau Policy that USGS does not provide computers and telecom to alternate work place.
          ISSUES HERE NEED TO BE FED TO OPS
        3. Janice Fullford wrote-up technical paper and got a response from ...

          Action Item 3:  CPAC PLANNING -- Discuss grass roots goals rather than strategic goals method

        • Discuss grass roots issues at this CPAC meeting
        • Continue discussion of the grass roots issues in August meeting
        • In November, will set goals for the next fiscal year's goals.

          Action Item 4:  Approach:

        • We sill take a bottom-up approach to planning consistent with strategic directions.
        • Use FY number approach to numbering.
        • Close "if possible" existing goals (Carl/Charlie).

      District Introductions and Presentations:

      • Minnesota District Chief's perspectives of District computing issues.
        1. Tools
        2. Products out to cooperators
        3. Communications

      • District Computer Section Staffing:
        • Site Administration staff is Frank Sager and one student.
        • Backup District staff, such as Dave helps Frank trouble shoot UNIX and desktop support when Frank Sager travels.
        • Also, a few District staff members help trouble shoot WTS Server when Frank travels.
        • Frank also helps North Dakota WRD District Site Administrators.
        • Frank is a member in NT TAC which benefits the District.

      • Minnesota's Computing Infrastructure presented by Frank Sager, District Site Administrator:
        • One field office with five personnel DG530 plus XTerms will be converted to NT desktops.
        • Lotus Notes is a concern. Often times, Frank walks field office thru site administration via telephone.
        • LANDesk will help Frank administer the field office desktops remotely.

      • Hardware:
        • Sun with NWIS and AIS
        • Data General
        • NT servers
        • WTS Citrix Server with Lotus Notes on it. Will serve Arc and ARC AMS to server web pages.
        • 32 NT desktops
        • 30 Xterms to be replaced with Dell's

      • LANDesk will help
      • Win 2000 will require much Site Administrative training
      • Frank already tooks three weeks of training just for Win 2000. $5K for three weeks of active window training not counting travel and per diem
      • Also Frank took the Lotus Notes training
      • Training is expensed
      • Ghost product reduces Notebook load to ten minutes from one hour.
      • Two major District cooperators are UCOE and Minnesota DNR
      • Cooperator access is through the Internet. Dial-up lines are not longer used.
      • Corps of Engineer representative:
        • COE has concern on access to USGS servers. This issue is related to the firewall on COE side.
        • COE has a need for rating table online.
        • Interest in trusted link/connection (point-to-point dedicated line) between USCOE and USGS

      • Minnesota Department of Natural Resources comments follow:
        • About 40 streamflow stations for flood warning are operated by DNR and NWS.
        • USGS set up the NWIS database for ADAPS processing in a technical partnership
        • Looking forward to use of ADAPS.
        • Site data are on the USGS web pages.
        • DNR is entering their historic streamflow data, as well as their water-quality data.
        • QW issues - use of the new STORET locally problematic. Local STORET system is problematic
        • DNR is pleased with Minnesota District service
        • Nice to have all data in one place on USGS server.
        • Need info on future revisions to NWIS.
        • Minnesota Pollution Control Agency uses streamflow data - but not funding the work.
        • Request to USGS District for web access of water-quality data and graphics applications.

       

    • Town Meeting
      • AIS Updates - Isabelle Halley (AIS Status Presentation)
        • Questions:

            :

            If Oracle is looming over us, we could be passive or get proactive with training, etc., what do you advise?

            :

             Port cost is minimal. Dealing with Oracle is more difficult than Ingres. NWIS will remain in Ingress. How could field offices support Ingres and Oracle at every site. Just the site administrators tasks will be difficult.

      • DIS Updates - Tom Wood (DIS Status Presentation)
        • Questions:

            :

            When will the enhanced WEB version of Lotus Notes available?

            :

            Can the date be changed for submitting suggested Lotus Notes enhancements until after the enhanced WEB version is sent out?

            :

            Is USGS monitoring the web-based training?

      • NWIS Updates - Alan Lumb (NWIS Status Presentation)
        • Questions:

            :

            Will Log Pearson frequency analysis and low-flow analysis built in to NWIS?

            Enhancements must be recommended to the NWIS User Groups, who make the priorities. Some scripts are being worked on to simplify the processing. Scott Bartholoma and Kate Flynn are working on this.

          PCA uses USGS data and would like that built into NWIS.

          :

          HSPF model - windows compliant version of this model available.
          IOWDN - not released because documentation is not approved.
          MEDCOZ - ditto.
          These models must be run thru DOS. Models must be refresh; e.g.

          • Resources are not provided to make this happen. See Draft memo from CPAC to Lew on general subject of need for increased resources to OI
          • EPA and TMDL folks are working on windows environment version of some HASS models.
          • Enhanced functionality is being coordinating by Alan Lumb and Kate Flynn.
          • Jenson software for use in TMDL process. Even though USGS is not funding this effort, the documentation will be published by USGS.
          • Hundreds of thousands of dollars funding exists. Workshop is this summer.
          • Resources on model refreshment are limited and uneven.

          :

           

          :

          Many NWIS Documentation:   links are old (nwis 2_1 and nwis 3_1). Can documentation on NWIS enhancements be posted to web page, with release information

          :

          NWIS is bringing a new writer-editor on board.

          :

          NWIS Training is needed especially DBA Training.

          :

          User training lies with the discipline offices. NWIS personnel will support the discipline basic NWIS training.
          NWIS DBA training is the responsibility of NWIS. This is falling thru the cracks.

    • General Questions - Lew Wade
      • Questions:

          :

          Who addresses the concerns of Publications issues?

          :

          Greg Allord represents the Publications issues. Greg is on the CPAC email abbreviation. And Bob Pierce represents the GIS issues.

        • Town Meeting Discussion (All)
          •   Action Item 5:   Link into "dead" NWIS links and get back to CPAC (Alan Lumb)

              Action Item 6:   HASS to issue note on current activities, such as HSFP. (Jim Slack)

              Action Item 7:   CPAC considers "training" as future issue at August CPAC meeting. (Scott McEwen and Tom Wood)

              Action Item 8:  Lew and Scott will work with Greg Allord to raise the PUBS (computer) tools issue at USGS level - is raised to the Bureau level and bring back as an agenda item Pubs 2000 meeting. (Lew Wade and Scott McEwen)

              Action Item 9:  Report on Log Pearson scripts status. (Alan Lumb)

              Action Item 10:  Find out and report on release date of new Lotus Notes Web tool. (Tom Wood)

              Action Item 11:  Develop Location for Next Meeting -- Next CPAC meeting on schedule in Hawaii (Carl Goodwin to check with District Chief on dates)

            Local Documentation from a PC web browser. Alan Lumb will look into this.

           

        • Network:
        • Related Documentation:

          • The minutes from the last Network meeting.
          • The draft network write-up and presentation prepared by Bob Wakelee for this May CPAC meeting.

            I encourage you to send Bob Wakelee any questions or specific issues you would like Bob to address.

          Questions:

            :

            What is the process for upgrading an individual office's network connection?

            :

            If a speed problem comes up, Bob works with the cognizant manager to upgrade the line.

            :

            Will Cinema Service replace the dial-in service in Denver?

            :

            Denver OPS no longer wants to support the dial-in service. Security is a driving issue.

            VBNS proposal presented by Bob Wakelee is for a Congressional line item.

    DIS Program Office Direction (Tom Wood) -- Questions:

      :

      Does mainstream software include the packages on the Goal One list?
      Refer to the Goal One Document

      :

      DIS will go as far down the list as it can.

      :

      Regarding review of DIS performed several years, would you get a copy of that and review it?

      :

      Yes.

      Comment:  Please err on the side of over communications.

      Comment:  Concern about NT-TAC and SUN-TAC going away with the reorganization.

      Comment:  NWIS relies on DIS Program Office, NT-TAC and SUN-TAC for consistent configurations.
      Concerned about how these functions will be supported.

      Comment:  Is DIS open to have WRD LINUX support come out of the closet?
      Can Ernie Dreyer, David Boldt, Scott McFarlane join forces and be established as a LINUX-TAC?

        Action Item 12:  Alan Lumb and Tom Wood will put together a group to look at Linux/LRGS issues including Installation, Backup and Security support. Group will be comprised of Ernie Dreyer, David Boldt, Greg Shank and others.

 Wednesday, May 17

  • 8:15 AM -- Goal One Document
    • Handout from Tom Wood -- a few slides on Tom's transparencies
    • Handout from Tom Wood -- Table 2000. Computations on Determining Support for Corporate Software for FY 2000
    • The following discussions occurred:
      • Discussion of complexity of process for determining support of WRD corporate software.
      • Discussion of weighting factors.
      • Discussion of clustering and then weighting the clusters.
      • Suggestion to build a table to with descriptions of support and which show the sources of support for the WRD corporate software: National Support, list of District support/contacts, list of Contractor support, etc.
      • Prioritizing tool should not be the end all to determine the funding strategies.

      Action Item 13:  Tom will lead the evaluation of FY 2001 funding for HW/SW support at August meeting; create of software by end of June. CPAC members will give cluster feedback. (Tom Wood)

      Action Item 14:   All CPAC members will look at the numbers tonight and look for big PROBLEMS and CPAC will review tomorrow morning at the CPAC meeting. (CPAC)

      Action Item 15:  Alan & Tom will develop narrative description of each package. (Alan Lumb and Tom Wood)

     

  • NWIS Data Base Manager Task Description and Position Description Issues.
    • This agenda item has some roots in Baltimore CPAC Meeting (Action Item #5).
    • Discussion:
      • Discussion of related documents - place here Oregon document has good information; very specific to Oregon District. Includes information on hydrologic investigations database management, but not basic data program. Information management team duties and quality control tasks are included and is very useful. (in the Northeastern/Western Workshop, which is six years old).

        SA, DBA, project chiefs, discipline specialist, etc are all involved in task. Nelson modified document and this document can be found on this CPAC meeting's agenda on the web page. Categories of tasks are included in Nelson's new document. There are about 35 NWIS tasks in this new document. See Appendix B of Nelson's document. The objective is to build a document that has useful information that Districts can use right away.

        North Carolina has a document that is similar to the Oregon document. This document is three years old.

        Action Item 16:   The next step is for Nelson to develop a product by mid-June to that includes a bulleted list of specific NWIS database management duties that could be used in a position description. One or two paragraphs of background would be in the preface. Alan Lumb will provide NWIS comments to Nelson Williams. All CPAC members will review by mid-July. Mark Nilles will pass this document for comments to the Discipline Offices by August 1. (Nelson Williams, Alan Lumb, & Mark Nilles)

     

  • Model Refreshment - Mark Nilles
    • Mark reported on the discipline office plans for modeling refreshment. That included a presentation by Mark plus some time for discussion on the role of CPAC in this activity. Examples of model refreshment activities by the WRD Discipline Offices were presented.
      Model Refreshment Presentation  by Mark Nilles, 5/17/2000.

        Action Item 17:  Mark will see that table of model refreshment efforts will get wide distribution. (Mark Nilles)

      Action Item 18:  Lew to bring proposal to next meeting to "fix" HASS/discipline offices interaction. (Lew Wade)

     

  • Data and Records Archiving Committee
    • ARCHIVAL
      • Scope of WRD archival topic is an issue.
        1. Archiving:
        2. Completed Projects - paper and electronic (directory structure)
          Station data records
          Model inputs, outputs, etc.
          Correspondence - internal and external
          NWIS - Original record, unit values, ratings, etc.
                 NAWQA
                 Biological data
                 Geophysical
          AIS

        3. Backups:
        4. Portable Computers

          SOME DOABLE PIECES

          Proposal:  That CPAC take ownership of completing these 2 items.
          Proposed lead:  Linda Geiger
          CPAC Liaison:  Loren Kloft

          1. )  NWIS - Assemble existing policy and procedures that pertain to archiving original record and unit values that are part of NWIS. Write/review policy and procedures and distribute to NWIS DBAs and SAs.
            1. What, exactly, is original record in NWIS? What specific files need to be backed up, in what format, with what meta data, and what frequency? Assume CD-ROM/DVD is THE media. Local copy and off-site copy.
            2. Ditto for unit values. Uncompressed ASCII.
            3. Ditto for GW & QW
          2. )  Compile district approaches for archiving completed projects.

      • Minnesota and Indiana have District archival plans. NAWQA has provided outstanding work on archival. Bill Kirby has prepared OSW memo on data archival.

        Action Item 19:  Loren will form a working group and develop a "charge" for data archival for August meeting. (Loren Kloft)

     

  • NWIS Status and Plans
  •   Action Item 20:   Scott will get a CRACD NWIS "Top 10" list of enhancements to the SW, WQ and GWSI NWIS user groups by the end of June. (Scott McEwen)

    Discussion about Tom Wood and Alan Lumb developing a contingency plan for the DISSPLA COTS replacement options. Refer to Alan Lumb's DISSPLA graphics replacement slides.

    With DISSPLA replacements options being considered, Scott McEwen feels that there will be considerable disruptions to the tasks of WRD hydrologic technicians.

    Motion. Scott McEwen wants a motion that the goal for graphics replacement is to have the WRD technicians not be disrupted in their abilities to produce graphs for surface-water, ground-water and water-quality graphs. Motion accepted unanimously. Motion to put DISSPLA back into the option set. Two opposed.

    The motion encourages that NWIS staff keep working on DISSPLA graphics replacements in NWIS. Discussion of option to buy and pay for DISSPLA from Computer Associates. Discussion of hope for the GINO options for library calls.

    Discussion of the use of the S-PLUS instead of TKG2 because S-PLUS is the WRD corporate.

    Discussion of the DISSPLA applications in the District. GINO should be looked at regardless for this reason. If no drop-in DISSPLA look alike is available, the Districts will have to port their DISSPLA programs.

    Alan Lumb will present status of NWIS graphics tasks for DISSPLA call replacements.

    Discussion of resources to accomplish the graphics replacement tasks.

      Action Item 21:  Alan will report back by email on the status of GINO to replace the NWIS DISSPLA calls. A list of the NWIS DISSPLA calls will be attached. (Alan Lumb)

    NWISWeb graphics should be the same engine that is used for NWIS graphics.

  • NWIS Field Computer Software
    • What is the platform for the filed computer software?
    • Frank Crenshaw's field computer software runs on a laptop.
    • Burl wants to use CE OS.
    • Discharge Measurement Recorder - Sutron won the contract. Running on Windows CE good rugged field device.
    • Nelson wants to know who the student Hatan to contact in NWIS? Implementation Team. Burl Goree in Louisiana District.
    • Will there be a National STORET? Alan Lumb's answer is that there is central STORET warehouse, but the States are not required to update the data into the warehouse from their local STORET data base.

  • Real-Time Data Acquisition for non-DCP Telemetry
  • There are at least 10 Districts that have non-DCPS telemetry gaging stations. North Carolina has over 100 land line stations and has plans to develop cell phone telemetry for ground-water well data. Also refer to Cathy Hill's memo of 4/14/2000, on Statistics of Data-Collection with a reply requested by 5/31/2000.

    CPAC thinks there is a need for some action to be taken by CPAC.

      Action Item 22:   (Scott McEwen) will draft a memo by August 1 from CPAC to OSW suggesting that there needs to be a plan for non-DCP real-time data acquisition software. The next step is to suggest that OSW take the lead and get a group from some of these States together and make recommendations for software support.

     

  • SECURITY
    • CPAC Presentation outline, by Mike McNally, 4/29/2000
    • Security Survey Draft, 5/3/2000 by Mike McNally
    • Security Presentation by Mike McNally.
    • For $700 per router, you get a firewall on a router.
    • Bob Wakelee has the money in his budget for all WRD routers. Maintenance cost is not included in Bob Wakelee's budget.
    • Suggestion is to have WAN group help in this task. Sweney, Morris and one more are on the group.
    • Haggling over the security to be applied on the routers in a District will be the issue; not the work to install the security software on the routers.
    • About 10 WRD sites are involved in the firewall project tests.
    • CPAC endorses a National implementation for WRD security.

      Action Item 23:   Mike McNally and Loren Kloft will prepare information about WRD security plans for WRD District Chiefs and Site Administrators.   (Tom Wood)

     

  • RDBMS
  • AIS and NWIS met with Oracle and discussed issues related to the migration of these two applications from Ingres to Oracle. Those discussions have resulted in a proposal from Oracle consulting services. The proposal is on a time and material basis in accordance with the Oracle GSA schedule. The scope is basically to assist NWIS and AIS in assessing the tasks and options to migrate the data bases and applications to an Oracle architecture, to test whether the AIS Open Road application will operate against the Oracle database environment, and develop a test data model to evaluate the NWIS application architecture. The cost estimate valid thru April 22 is $202K and the period of performance would be 4 months. NWIS is not seeking funds at this time for this effort.

    Kathy at NWQL requires four to eight times as much time to administer Oracle over Ingres.

    The next step is to provide closure on the Oracle agenda items. There is no real advantage in going to Oracle; also going to Oracle would produce significant costs. It is anticipated that the Bureau will be driving the RDBMS issue.

      Action Item 24:  Alan Lumb will develop a short wrap-up document for the CPAC web page on the ORACLE RDBMS issue.

     

  • Year 2000 Funds for Lotus Implementation Desktops
    (Also see Lotus Desktop Replacement notice - Y2K Lotus Desktop Replacement Data Call for WRD Sites, from Tom Wood and others, 5/22/2000.)
    • Moving away from x desktops.
      • Donna Sholz hasn't decided about laptops for desktops yet for this procurement.

    • Some WRD offices would like to get rid of the 75 mhz laptop and old xterm or DG and replacing with a laptop.
      • Nebraska:

        Buy the CPUs - Districts are grateful for the CPUs and could buy or gather the monitors.

        North Carolina:

        Slowest CPU is 400 mhz with 256 RAM - no new desktops needed.

        Pennsylvania:

        has 60 XTerms and would like to beef up its servers instead.

        Arizona:

        DI-1 for $70K to buy desktops.

        Kentucky:

        Loren is a fan of Thin Clients, and would like to buy more Thin Stars. National watch group required.

        Research:

        Users didn't need to all go to MS Windows. Popping Lotus Notes for researchers.

        Hawaii:

        Mix of equipment. Getting off DGs. Field offices are two persons typically. One machine usually. Problems with networks and machines themselves are old. One PC so that they can have a card reader. One terminal for simplicity of SA. Every outer island office will have the existing PC and one newer PC. PCs and Thin Star clients in District office. Two DGs left. Pubs unit has Macs.

        NWQL:

        240 - 260 desktops running NTs and Windows 95. StarLims needs Oracle run time on Client.

        Nilles in Denver:

        Trend is for frequent travelers to just have a laptop as a desktop. Docking stations setup is expensive.

        FL, Tallahassee:

        going toward PC desktops. 10 old PCs need to be replaced.

        FL, Tampa:

        15 XTerms, 50 Pentiums 100 -700 mhz (30 to be replace) 3 DGs.

        FL, Miami:

        Some need to be replaced. 10 XTerms plus 5 others.

    • Licenses issues need to be considered; such as Reflections.
    • Pentium III is overkill.
    • Would be nice to get the desktop replacement decisions ASAP so Districts can make additional end of year purchases, if the District has a surplus.

      Action Item 25:  CPAC members to send comments by May 24 to Tom Wood on the technical specs for the desktop replacements.

 Thursday, May 18

  • GOAL ONE DOCUMENTATION - Revisit
    • AWUDS
    • DCP Vendor Packages
    • SLEDS
    • DODEC
    • CONCALC
    • Cluster SWUDS and DECODES
    • Cluster the Utilities into one category (about 18 categories, such as ZIP and WINZIP utilities)

    Premise is that WRD does not have enough money to support all the packages that WRD needs to support.

    GOAL ONE Document Matrix has been developed to rank software packages and support. Tom Wood needs to look at the matrix and provide a rational approach and put the approach into practice for the next fiscal year.

    Discussion about drafting a simpler plan to provide enough information to document funding needs for the District personnel and others who provide software and user support for corporate WRD software. This would essentially compliment the GOAL ONE Documentation. This would be a proposal that would allow CPAC members to provide feedback to Tom Wood.

    This proposals would include clustering of utilities and new tabular format, showing types and funding support.

    A table format is suggested as the following:

      Package

      Framemaker

      Sutron

      Funded Help

      DIS - $1,000

      X

       

      PUBS - $5,000

       

      Unfunded Help

      SuperMan PA District

      ?

      Contractor Help

      OASIS - 75%

      Sutron $0

      Packaging

      DIS

      X

      NEWS Group

       

       

      ... A Web Page will be developed. The web page could be sorted in various ways, such as by package, by system, category of user or by source of support.

    Rewrite Action 13 as:  Tom Wood will develop a proposal for a Fiscal Year 2001 funding for HW/SW support to bring back to the August CPAC meeting. Proposal will be sent out two weeks before the meeting.

    Brainstorm on Constituent Issues.

    • Data Archival
    • Hardware/Software selection Process
    • Backups for Landline based data acquisition
    • Increase network bandwidth!
    • Field computer software development
    • Stick to NWIS, DIS, AIS issues -- not all SW/HW issues
    • Reliable overall data delivery systems
    • Training for commercial and inhouse developed software system
    • NWIS/STORET problem
    • Implement SPLUS (fully)
    • Project front end for AIS
    • Training for new packages
    • Concern over "Centralization/Control" direction
    • Resistance to Lotus Notes
    • Policy on use of encryptions - given Windows 2000 capability (this is a Lotus Notes issue also)
    • Change Control Process: for deciding what when to change, such as RDBMS
    • Alternative Work Place Issues Policies - (Noted that the Division repeats Bureau Policy - Division has given a policy that Cost Center Chiefs can alter this policy)
    • More interdivisional interaction - the role of the CPAC in the new USGS
    • Explore and investigate new technologies
    • Publications Hardware and Software
    • USGS Dissemination of other peoples data
    • Quality of data
    • Objective approach to platform issues (Web service: Apache vs. IIS)
    • Seed Money
    • SLEDS ; Sediment laboratory software

     

  • Hardware and Software Selection
  • Discussion led by Lew Wade regarding the process of evaluating and selecting the Bureau/Division hardware and software infrastructure.

    Discussion of how WRD/CPAC can influence the decision making process.

     

  • Where is the support for the infrastructure going to come from when DIS is moved to OPS?
  •   Action Item 26:  Critical to get GIO to the next CPAC meeting after she comes on Board. (Lew Wade)

     

  • Discussion of POP Issue
  • This discussion is to work through the WRD representatives on the Lotus Implementation Team, Graig McHendrie and Jim Bettendorf.

    • 10 Reasons to Keep POP -- Nelson Williams & Scott McEwen
      1. Other client software is more intuitive. On other mail readers, one can change display options and save window geometry & characteristics. If these features are available in Lotus, they are either difficult to find or difficult to use.
      2. Other client software is more efficient (i.e. less memory and disk intensive), making it more suitable for older desktops/laptops. This problem results in hardware costs, just for this one application.
      3. Allows use by other computing platforms, including Macs, Suns, etc. Again, this problem results in hardware costs, just for this one application.
      4. Allows for use of text-based client software/interface. Again, this problem results in hardware costs, just for this one application.
      5. Ability to use standard UNIX commands on e-mail folders or files. Lotus Notes does not allow one to "grep" for text in subject line or content. There seems to be no straight-forward way to search content.
      6. Keep POP until Lotus lives up to promised client and Web improvements.
      7. POPping mail offsite (home) is much more efficient than replication or the browser interface. Allows easier productivity while working offline.

      8. (GUYS - I QUESTION THIS ONE. CAN YOU PROVIDE MORE INFO TO CONTRAST POP EFFICIENCIES FROM LOTUS REPLICATION?)
      9. E-mail sent from the Lotus client to a non-Lotus reader may (will) be malformed. Lotus headers are very badly malformed when read by non-Notes-based readers. This is a problem for people with whom we cooperate.
      10. More complete/secure virus scanning.
      11. Higher confidence in back-ups of POPped e-mail. Some Lotus servers are not being backed up routinely.
      12. The case has not been made as to why users must use the Lotus Notes interface to read their e-mail, thus causing user resentment.

    CPAC wants to get Graig McHendrie on the phone to find out his opinion on turning off the POP on the Lotus Issues.

      Graig McHendrie -- WRD long-term goal is to run WINTEL applications on the desktop/laptops. This movement from POP should be a matter of timing.

    Information Chiefs, Donna Scholz, and Gloria Stiltner will be meeting to discuss the POP issues and the timing issues.

      Action Item 27:   Lew Wade, Graig McHendrie, Tom Wood, Loren Kloft, Scott McFarlane, and Greg Shank) will have a teleconference next week (week of May 22) to discuss the LOTUS Notes POP issues.

     

  • Emerging Technologies
  • There is a need for a WRD process to develop a priority list of emerging technologies and support staff that would be of interest to WRD. Some comments include looking outward, benchmarking, being proactive, NT-TAC works on this.

      Action Item 28:   Sandy Williamson will lead the effort to pick out two emerging technologies and present a case for this at the August meeting.

     

  • Seed Money
  • Discussion on seed money. Use DIS mechanism in place. Refer to previous discussions on CPAC Goal One Document.

     

  • NWIS note to SA's on AWUDS and SWUDS requirements
  •   Action Item 29:   Sandy Williamson NWIS note to SA's on AWUDS and SWUDS requirements (Action Item 5 from Columbia meeting).

     

  • Action Item Review -- Minnesota Meeting
    1. Merge Action Item number 15 into action item number 13
    2. Action Item number 19. -- Form a working group and develop a "charge" plus some work draft product for data archival for August meeting.

     

  • Agenda Items for Next Meeting
    • 1 hour

      Goal One Document

      1 hour

      Constituent Issues - continue discussion to select goals for the next fiscal year

      1/2 hour

      Proposal from Lew Wade to "fix" HASS/Discipline office interaction.

      1/2 hour

      Action 19. Data Archival charge

      1 hour

      Action 28. Emerging Technologies - Sandy Williamson


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