| Attendees |
| Expectations & Concerns |
| Agenda |
| Town Meeting |
| Wed, 2/23/2000 |
| Thu, 2/24/2000 |
| Fri, 2/25/2000 |
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AttendeesCarl Goodwin District Chief
- CPAC Chair Bill Carswell Senior Staff Liaison
Lew Wade Senior Staff Liaison
Alan Lumb Chief, National Water
Information System Gloria Stiltner Chief, Distributed
Information System Sandy Williamson National Water
Quality Assessment Stephen Glodt National Water-Quality
Laboratory Jim Kolva Jim Kolva Mark Nilles Discipline office
Mike Slifer District Chief
Loren Kloft Site Administrator
Gary Mahon Section Chief
Greg Shank Data Base Management
Systems Pat Vallance Administrative Officer
Nelson Williams World Wide Web Development
Leo House National Research
Program Substitute:
Dave Shultz Scott McEwen Regional Computer
Specialist Substitute:
Jim Bettandorf Isabelle Halley Chief,
Branch of Admin Mgmt Systems Bill Shope Executive ICOM Secretary
Expectations and Concerns
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Membership
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Suggestions for replacing Jim Kolva are Ron Shields, Robert Mason.
Jim will join the OSW around May 1. His main tasks are: 1) administer CBR Program, 2) coordinate technical reviews, and 3) focus on facilitating ADAPS training.
Note: Place a new agenda item on Friday morning this week to discuss the CPAC member substitute policy for meeting attendance.
Policy on CPAC OI members -- The following constituencies will be representing
at the CPAC meeting on an "as needed" basis. These Office of Information (OI) staff include:
Publishing: Greg Allord HASS: Jim Slack GIS: Bob Pierce Policy on Send Substitutes to CPAC Meeting -- Substitution should represent
the constituency. CPAC member should clear the substitute with the CPAC Chair. It is the responsibility of the
CPAC member to brief the CPAC substitute in preparation of the meeting. There is not a need for a strict CPAC meeting attendance policy. All CPAC members have
acted professionally with respect to attendance.
USGS Strategic Change
Lew Wades' VIEW: CPAC works on WRD IT Strategies. The following systems will be centralized in the Bureau or changing:
Question: What does CPAC do now and leading up to the next meeting? CPAC Options include:
Open Ended Questions:
Points to make
to Bureau IT folks
Travel Manager (Isabelle Halley)
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Town Meeting -- District Presentations:
Columbia |
9 |
Conway |
3 |
New Ellenton |
2 |
Sullivans Island |
2 |
Refer to WEB URL: http://scrv2.sr.usgs.gov
AIS Presentation (Isabelle Halley)
DIS Presentation (Gloria Stiltner)
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NWIS Presentation (Alan Lumb)
Alan Lumb will get answers to the following:
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Serving Data on the Web
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Comment: Let the process work for Lamars requirements through the NWIS Users Group.
DIS Intrastucture Memo
Read "Model Refreshment"
CPAC proposal.
HASS Branch Model
GOAL ONE DOCUMENT
All CPAC members will provide Gloria Stiltner with any additional software packages that should
be included in the GOAL ONE DOCUMENT. For example, SLEDS is not in the document. The document will
include:
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NWIS Update (Alan Lumb)
Reference URL:
presentation slides (Alan Lumb) |
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NWIS Resources (Alan Lumb)
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Lew Wade will prepare a strong recommendation for increased OI resources based on the information in Alan Lumb's presentation and provide to Senior Staff, when appropriate.
Contents of crafted memo may include:
On Friday, Lew Wade will give a walkthrough of the DIS, NWIS, and AIS
NAT-WEB
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Notes: Is there a NAT-WEB test Plan? Detailed test planning has not been initiated yet. Does OI invest the time and resources prior to the funding availability. The resources are not secured yet. NWISWeb can proceed without NAT-WEB. NAT-WEB cannot proceed without NWISWeb.
Discussion of NSIP presented by Jim Kolva. Refer to the NSIP Report URL:
http://water.usgs.gov/osw/nsip/
Bill Carswell has background information from Western/Northeastern Region Data Base Management
Committee. Includes District organization unit description, functions and list of duties. |
Some notes: The NWIS Data Management work is under-resourced in the Districts. How many FTEs do Districts devote to NWIS basic data management? Suggestion is to assemble the information and discuss with the USGS Position Description Classifier. Deliverable could be a list of tasks as well as example NWIS Data Base Manager Position Descriptions.
Training Discover Tool Demo
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Model Refreshment
Reference: Baltimore CPAC Action Item 34 -- Comment to Janice Fulford on Modeling Refreshing Program. As modified, Janice will air the proposal with District Office's & NRP. Janice to bring modified proposal to CPAC at the next meeting.
Related Documentation: The proposal was presented to all discipline office chiefs by the OSW chief; however it was not accepted.
Lew Wade suggested reviewing the reason for the discipline offices rejection of this CPAC recommendation and discuss the alternatives available to CPAC.
Status of model refreshment proposal: CPAC has raised the model refreshment issue and communicated the CPAC perspective to the discipline offices. The discipline offices message back to CPAC is that they are jointly working internally with NRP on this model refreshment issue. This is an important issue of the discipline offices and deserves additional resources; however they don't want to see a separate mechanism initiated for this process. TMDL, surface-water, and ground-water models are examples of the models needed by many Districts. Pre- and Post processing of model data, GUIs and visualization packages are some of the issues. This issue is of importance to the WRD Senior Staff.
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Hardening of the Gages
The issue is to address the following action item from the last CPAC meeting in Baltimore:
Reference: Baltimore Action item 30 -- Follow up with ICOM on their plan to deal with gage house failures. (Carl Goodwin)
Conference call between CPAC and the Central Region Data Advisory Meeting (CRACD). Attendees at the CRACD meeting in Lakewood, Colorado included:
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WRD CR Advisory Committee on Data Operations |
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Members: |
Ronald L. Kuzniar/WRD/USGS/DOI |
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Melanie L. Clark/WRD/USGS/DOI |
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Rene J. Freret/WRD/USGS/DOI |
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David W. Grey/WRD/USGS/DOI |
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Michael E. Dorsey/WRD/USGS/DOI |
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Eric S. Wakeman/WRD/USGS/DOI |
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Burl B. Goree/WRD/USGS/DOI |
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Henry S. Hauck/WRD/USGS/DOI |
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William S. McEwen/WRD/USGS/DOI |
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Robert B. Swanson/WRD/USGS/DOI |
The CRACD committee was joined by Jim Kircher, Acting Central Regional Hydrologist and John Harsh, ICOM Chair.
This issue centers around WRD policy on hardening the gages. The next step is to seek funds to make this policy a reality. Policy is established in the NSIP Report per Jim Kolva. A CPAC question is "Does the proposed NSIP plan reflect the policy?"
Hardening the gage definition: gages are able to withstand a 200-year flood. WRD Policy is established for "hardening the gage" issues. NSIP Report takes the USGS/WRD policy and is a plan to make "hardening the gages" operation. There is a CPAC sense of needing additional information resources to make "gage to the page" a reality.
NSIP Plans exist to have software and redundancy in place.
CPAC and ICOM must continue to interact on this issue. The next step is to have the Chief, OSW share with CPAC and ICOM the funding plan and a status of the various elements of hardening of the gages. One question is "What is the plan to spend the $2M next year?" CPAC needs to know how this money is going to be spent.
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Polling of Non-GOES Telemetered Gages
About 10 Districts have a major investment in non-GOES telemetry systems. Many other districts use non-GOES telemetry to a lesser degree. The number of sites is greater that 2000 gages.
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Mike Norris's work is to gather information from a work group comprised of representatives from the 10 Districts who are heavily involved in non-GOES telemetry systems. The purpose of the information is to determine what is needed for coordinated support for non-GOES telemetry.
Then, NWIS will produce specifications and spending plans so that a cost estimate can be developed for a software package that will take data from non-GOES telemetry gage data and format into NWIS (tie it into Satin and Sentry).
A Central Region Data Conference, sponsored by the Central Region Data Advisory Committee is scheduled for May 2001
Field Computer Software
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The following are notes captured during the discussion:
Late March or early April, a CRACD committee member, Eric Wakeman, will join us at the May CPAC meeting. Bill Shope will sketch out an approach for the software development by a vendor. CPAC will take this issue of field computer software up at the next meeting. CPAC will frame the issue at the next CPAC meeting. This framework will be presented to Senior Staff. Senior Staff will make the decision to commit the resources.
Another step would be to establish a small group of knowledgeable field persons who know the field work. No standing committee -- but gather three or four knowledgable people who can sit down with the programmer or get with a vendor to get a cost estimates for the development effort.
Branch Model Y2K Fix
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BASINSOFT Cost Recovery
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Note from Greg Shank 2/28/2000: The question of whether this software was published was asked in Columbia and I indicated that I was reading a report on it prior to the meeting. The report I'm referring to is: WRIR 95-4287
Note from Craig Harvey 3/2/2000: The Application itself has not been published. Many times the results from the application have been used to develop flood frequency equations in reports across the Nation. We have published the report to which you refer, but the application has never been published into the public domain. Internal releases if the software have been encrypted to protect the "marketability" of the software via a CRADA. The results from the model have been published as well, just not the application itself.
Relational Data Base
Management System
The RDBMS options are:
While CPAC formed an RDBMS study team broader that NWIS and AIS, the fact is that this issue is
relegated to NWIS and AIS. One task is to determine the cost of converting NWIS, AIS, HIFCSS-II,
et al from Ingres to other RDBMS packages. Alan Lumb, as NWIS Program Office Chief, will continue
to look at the DBMS options.
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Network Capacity Status
Planning
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Telecommuting
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Emerging Technologies
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WRD Strategic Direction
and CPAC Goals
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Remote Connectivity
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OI Units Priority
"$" Needs
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FY00 |
FY01 |
NWIS |
$250 |
$750 |
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HASS (Double Thruput) |
$75 |
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DIS |
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- S-Plus Support |
$50 |
-- |
- SUN Server OS |
$50 |
-- |
- More Field $ |
$75 |
-- |
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GIPO |
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- Applications |
$50 |
-- |
- Contract Support |
$50 |
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WEB |
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- NATWEB |
$600 |
-$300 |
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CPAC Role
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Logistics for May CPAC Meeting
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Logistics for August CPAC Meeting
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CPAC Cyber Seminar
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Address questions or comments to Charles Merk, CPAC Secretary |